Zen禅

心理学に基づく坐禅の研究-心の風景を眺め、流れていく気持ちの音を静かに聴く(英訳)

言語と禅の化学式Chemical equation of Language and Zen

2017-02-11 | 坐禅

言語と坐禅は媒介変数である

Language and zazen are parameters

H₂Oの化学式のようなものだ

It is likely the chemical equation of H₂O

水素Hに酸素Oが結合し水になる

Oxygen bonds to Hydrogen becoming water


言語機能が身に付く仕組みや

The language functional structure which has acquired in body

坐禅の解脱の仕組みは                

-and the breakaway mechanical structure in zazen are

水の結合式、その化学反応式に酷似している

-extremely similar with the water binding formula that the chemical reaction

水素Hを言語の知識の原子(2個のH⁺)

H, Hydrogen as for the atom of knowing language (2 H⁺)

酸素Oを言語の応用の原子(O⁻²)

O, Oxygen as for the atom of practical using language (O⁻²)


O₂+2H₂=2H₂O


プラス電荷を持つ知識(1電荷を持つ水素)に

Knowledge which has plus electric charge

(Oxygen has 2 electric charge)

マイナス電荷を持つ応用(2電荷を持つ酸素)

Practical using which has minus electric charge

(2 of Hydrogen which has 1 electric charge)

 これらが『お互い引き付け』られて

These have attracted each other

単体では存在できない原子から

From atoms that cannot exist as a singular

存在できる分子に結合する

-become a molecule combine to be exist


つまり、言語の知識はその応用と結合しないと

That is, knowledge of language must be combined with its practicing

物体として存在しえないことが分かる

-otherwise, it cannot be existing as an object

知識+応用=言語の式

Knowing + Using = Language equation

言語を使うには

To use a language

知識を応用させなければならないことが分かる

Can learn that the knowing must be applied


また坐禅の例では

In case of zazen

思考を原子化する+自己を原子化する=坐禅式

Atomize thought + Atomize ego =Zazen equation

思考を原子化にするためには

To atomize thought

分子の状態である思考を

それ以上解体できない元素のように切り別ける

Break off the thought which formed as a molecule

-decompose it to an element until cannot be dissembled anymore

思考を『思い』『考え』『記憶』に分別し

Sorting thoughts into『Thinking』『Idea』『Memory』

それらが結合している形態をただ見つめる

-and then just look at the forms they are combined


自己を原子化するためにも

To atomize ego

分子の状態である自己を

The ego formed as a molecule

それ以上解体できない元素のように別ける

Break off ego till it cannot be decomposed like an element

自己を『生命体』『脳の電子刺激』『他人ではない自分』に分別し

Discriminating ego into

『Life forms』『Brain electric stimuli』『Myself which is not others』

それらが結合している形態をただ見つめる

Look at those combined forms


水の結晶体から

From water-crystalline body

水素や酸素を逆探知できるように

As it can be detected out Hydrogen and Oxygen

分子の結合体から

-from a molecule combine

それ以上分割できない原子を見つけられる

-can find an atom which cannot be decomposed any more


原子のイオン化が分かれば

If know an atom ionizing

水の成り立ちが理解できる

Can understand the formatting of water

言語化への過程を経由すれば

If go through into processing of verbalization

言語を使えるようになる

Can use a language

坐禅で思考を分割し切っていけば

If divide thought and keep cutting the thought

解脱が得られる

Can reach to breakaway


全ては実践と実行の中に解答がある

For everything, there is an answer

-in a practicing and in an execution

解答から問いも見つけられる

Can find a question from answers


究極な科学は

The ultimate science is

仮説に対する結果

Results against hypothesis

結果から見える仮説

Visualize the hypothesis from the result


A=B or A≠B

B=A or B≠A 


相関関係が成り立つ

Can hold correlations


媒介変数が何であろうが

Whatever parameters would be

水素と酸素で水になるように

Like water combined with Oxygen and Hydrogen

万仏の根源には不変である自然の摂理がある

There is nature’s providence that unchangeable

-at the root of everything

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Unknown (T)
2017-02-23 22:11:18
I understand that the word [ WORK] has a good side and bad side, virtue and vice, same as the word [STRESS].
We can use these words within the context depending upon each situation.
As a synonym and an antonym of [Work],
if I recall [Labour] and [Play], I tend to hate [ Labour], and will enjoy more to [Play].

Only [Work] without [Play], or vice versa,
will create a mental illness after all.
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Unknown (T)
2017-02-23 16:54:52
Probably my definition for [work] was very narrow, I guess.
I understood WORK as the Occupation or Job to earn money to support one's living expenses.
My thought came from someone's comment on [Work] as his SPINE (or something?).
It was to me like he was saying that if he didn't have job (=work), he would become insane.
Then, I questioned , this means that in order not to become insane, he has to keep working (=having a job) without retirement till he dies.

I've retired already, so I am not [Work]ing,
but I didn't become insane.
On the contrary, I'm very much enjoying my life now
without [ WORK=Job], since I am completely free.

I was talking in this context,
and you were talking in other context for the word [work], I guess.
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Response to T (Eric Daniel Applebaum)
2017-02-23 08:47:05
Mr. T...

I respectfully suggest that you expand your database and then re-evaluate your supposition.

I disagree with it. I find it narrow, merely anecdotal, and not in agreement with other studies I have access to.

If you study work from an anthropological point of view, you may conclude that work is not mere Toil and most people, despite their protestations about getting up in the morning, are aware that without work their lives would have less meaning and some may even go insane.

Humans need work.

I have a great resource for you to access. I have offered you this option before to which you did not directly respond. I offer it again.

I do not know you well, but I suspect you would value greatly the opportunity to review this resource.

If you wish to receive it, let me know.

Frankly, I was tempted to just leave the link, but it was suggested I not do that. If you don't want the data, then continue to decline by silence my offer to send it to you.

On the other hand, if you want another perspective, one you would find quite authoritative, then let me know and I'll pass the link somehow or provide the data directly.
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To Eric (T)
2017-02-20 08:23:52
My supposition is based on the following observations
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1. Work is usually categorized as Toil,
not as Pleasure but as Pain in reality of the most people (= just a mean of supporting your life).

2. Some psychology experiment showed that,
when people were left themselves in
completely free environment to do anything they want to do, they didn't want to do anything but
staying idle, after all (= this seems to be the human nature).

They just spontaneously want to do something only when they find excitements to do that in another word. This is not called as WORK in general term, I think.



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Unknown (Eric Applebaum)
2017-02-19 09:54:11
T: Your comment partially translated as such:

"In Western Christian thought, "WORK" was positioned as a punishment by which humans defeated God's deed in the Garden of Eden.
Because it is a way of receiving the necessary evil, Westerners immediately draw their attention from "WORK" as soon as the future of life is established (· · · Yes)."

Since I am not a Christian, I have no opinion regarding the injection of this religious perspective into the subject of work.

With respect to the Garden of Eden, a mere myth, I would retort and borrow from a great writer when I suggest that even picking apples is work. :-)

But I do maintain that work is universal in providing one with a sense of purpose and accomplishment.

If you are interested in a resource on this subject, let me know. I can offer you one that is unique in its depth.

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work ethics (T)
2017-02-19 04:17:39
「小人閑居して不善をなす」は東洋思想。

西洋キリスト教思想では、「WORK」は人間がエデンの園で神の言いつけを破った罰として位置付けられた。
必要悪という受け取り方だから欧米人は将来の生活の身通しが立つや否や、「WORK」から即座に身を引く(・・・そうだ)。

別な言い方をすれば、日本人は精神の安定性に貢献するホルモンであるセロトニン分泌が(世界的に見ても)極端に少ないので、
すぐ悲観論的思考に支配される。
そこで「WORK」で自分を紛らわしていないといけないという事となる。
(注;しかし日本人はそれほど大したWork Ethicsを持ってはいないと言う説もある。他方では享楽的でもあるようだ・・・)。
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Meaning of work (A worker)
2017-02-18 13:20:39
As you mentioned, work is my spine too in my personal history.
I was saved by work many times.
If I didn't have a work when I had mind issues, I would have had mental illness because I would have focused on the issues not the work.
Work can save economy and minds, I think...
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Unknown (The above "To T" should be: To T from Eric)
2017-02-17 08:33:29
The above "To T" should be: "To T from Eric"

Not from "unknown"

:-)
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Unknown (To T)
2017-02-17 08:31:33
Oh YES YES.

This which you say is really true and very important.

I think you have expressed perfectly how the social sciences should develop and be employed.

Really, I agree with this very much and have never heard these ideas expressed better when you write:

"My wording [Science] was only meant that the psychology nowadays is a part of Social Science.
As long as it says as science, I meant, some kind of justification shall be needed to claim something as facts.

It is similar to at the judicial court, I think, that no one will support mere rumors and bare ideas, or mysterious idea, mystic and supernatural phenomenon as a supportable and trustable statements. All statements have to be based on supportable facts.

In that sense, nowadays, a science-based-psychology
is preferred......This I mean in my previous comments.

Samely, when I said that you can enjoy any kind of fantasy, I only meant that anyone, at his or her
own will, can be a dreamer, fortune teller, mythologist or a mystician, or
even a truly true magician or an illusion creator.
But if you claim yourself as a psychology-based -commentator officially on your writings, you are better to set aside yourself from what those people shall say.....
This I meant in my previous comment in my thinking."
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Unknown (The Son Responds!!!)
2017-02-17 08:26:40
The use of the quote was inspired by something you wrote in the blog post above:

"Knowing + Using = Language equation
言語を使うには
To use a language
知識を応用させなければならないことが分かる
Can learn that the knowing must be applied"

Your writing goes deep into the communal aspect of human story. Language establishes us a social species.

Through our work, as individuals, we find our place in society and add the value of our skills to the group. The group can be two people, a family, a village, or an entire country. The size does not matter.

Work is the "universal application" of the sum of our skills and talents, but is expressed by DOING something. It is, literally: ACTION!!!!

With language we are able to pass skills and knowledge to the next generation in new ways, thus we advance as individuals, but equally important, as a species.

We define epochs of human history by the work the people did and the materials they worked with:
The Period of Hunter- Gatherers
The Dawn of Agriculture
The Stone Age
The Bronze Age
The Industrial Revolution

Although not stated explicitly, your writing about the chemical equation of Language and Zen touches upon themes that have been with us throughout human history. And the "spine", the part which holds it all up, is work: Your individual skills, effort and actions add great value to the community.
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To the son (Unknown)
2017-02-16 05:40:59
"Work is the spine of human history."
I think above quatation is come from,
Herbert A. Applebaum who was a writer.
May I ask why this commentator mentioned about it?
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Unknown (T)
2017-02-15 11:10:26
My wording [Science] was only meant that the psychology nowadays is a part of Social Science.
As long as it says as science, I meant, some kind of justification shall be needed to claim something as facts.

It is similar to at the judicial court, I think, that no one will support mere rumors and bare ideas, or mysterious idea, mystic and supernatural phenomenon as a supportable and trustable statements. All statements have to be based on supportable facts.

In that sense, nowadays, a science-based-psychology
is preferred......This I mean in my previous comments.

Samely, when I said that you can enjoy any kind of fantasy, I only meant that anyone, at his or her
own will, can be a dreamer, fortune teller, mythologist or a mystician, or
even a truly true magician or an illusion creator.
But if you claim yourself as a psychology-based -commentator officially on your writings, you are better to set aside yourself from what those people shall say.....
This I meant in my previous comment in my thinking.



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Unknown (Applebaum, Eric D.)
2017-02-15 11:03:26
A quick quote before I continue my endless copying.

Thousands of candles can be lighted from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Happiness never decreases by being shared.

Buddha

Unnecessary extra commentary by Eric: I never quoted this person before.
Even though I am not religious, I do like this quote.
P.S.: May I borrow your lighter... :-)
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Nuetron (Writer)
2017-02-15 06:29:36
Science gives us facts that how everything has come and will be.
I don't know all the facts yet but it always fascinates me.

This blog has developed from a personal sense which was not supported by scientific evidences.
Still I don't have a certain data for confirming my idea but I can refer some data basics to backup...However,
I don't use someone's perspective to show my perspective angle.
Because I don't want to limit reader's perspective width.

I have my own style to be which is not easy for people to comprehensive.
Even though, my style is not the kind people wanting to know, I am sure that it has a value to be written.
And a few people can argue about what a line drawn on a limitation area.
I am happy to read people's line which they draw on their canvases.
People's opinion are their paintings, it is not a cage I would be in.
But I will take the cages people want to give me because I have a bigger cage to keep them.
Yours opinions whether they are paintings or cages I will always take.
I have an empty cage and it waits for welcoming.
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Unknown (To Mr. T)
2017-02-15 05:23:10
Uhhhhh, I have a few inquiries....and comments.

In my post I asked a very discreet question: Have you ever worked in the construction industry?

I asked because that would be a point of some commonality, and an interesting perspective could be offered.

Maybe your answer would indicate a "no" response. You mentioned "buildings" and timetables to complete projects, so that is why I inquired.

YOU wrote the following: "Of course you can enjoy any kind of fantasy in your brain as a past-time, but you can not live your daily life on such a fantasy."

There are two possibilities.

1. When YOU write the word "you" in this statement it is a reference to me. I tend to doubt that because I would have assumed that by now you have determined that I am a rationalist and lover of the scientific method. If I am wrong and the "you" in your statement is a reference to me, than I will look forward to disabusing YOU of what I consider to be an extremely inaccurate ideation.

2. When YOU use the word "you" in that statement you are intending to refer to persons more generically, such that the statement could be written as: "Of course a person can enjoy any kind of fantasy in their brain as a past-time, but they can not live their daily life on such a fantasy."

I assume the second option is what you meant, and I do not disagree with it in any way.

YOU also wrote the following:

It should be rather scientific (in my thinking),
and it should not be based on bare fictitious imagination which can not be verified as THE TRUTH.

I have many thoughts about this, but I will note that while you speak of science, your statement is, in my opinion, not one that a scientist would make.

Science is not static. What was TRUE before may have to be modified as more data is acquired.

A scientist works from hypotheses. And from theories.

Just because something is a theory does not mean it is untrue. Quite the contrary.

Evolution is a theory. It is one of the most robust theories in human history (no pun intended). The theory of evolution is supported by fossil records, geology, planetary formation, deposition charts, observation of species, DNA science, microbial research, medicine, etc. etc. So Evolution is what a scientist would say is an extremely well supported Theory, which should be accepted as a good description of reality until there is extraordinary proof to the contrary. In a century and a half there has been no credible rebuttal to evolution, so the Theory stands.

Of course, the mechanics of Evolutionary Theory has changed over time. The old linear models of a steady flow through time toward greater complexity is not supported by the fossil record. Instead, single cell organisms reigned on Earth for billions of years and it wasn't until the Cambrian period, 350 million years ago, that muti-cellular life began rapid evolutionary divergence. So the so called "Linear Model", was replce by the Evolutionary Model known as Punctuated Equilibrium.

Nevertheless, the general precept of the Theory Evolution is not changed by this new data.

That is an example of how a scientist would describe a state of reality, in my opinion.

Respectfully, when you say that Keiren should be scientific and only rely on THE TRUTH, you do not, in my opinion, seem to be stating things in scientific terms at all.

Truth in science is a theory, well supported, but subject to change.

Even so called "Universal Truths" are subject to this scientific method. The Universe evolves, and changes.

You are invited to respond if you wish.

Of course, I make these comments will all the deepest respect for you. Perhaps it is a language issue, or my own misinterpretation of what you meant to say, that caused me to consider your very statement regarding 'scientific" to be profoundly lacking in application of the scientific method.

Of course, Keiren is interested in ideas. Right or wrong. Ideas are her domain. That is, I think, inherently open minded and scientific to the core.....
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P.S (T)
2017-02-15 03:24:58
If Keiren wants to pursue a current world's psychology of zazen,
it should be rather scientific (in my thinking),
and it should not be based on bare fictitious imagination which can not be verified as THE TRUTH.


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To Eric (T)
2017-02-15 03:14:25
My Nature is essentially in a mechanical engineering
spirit.
I prefer the clear, concrete and tangible concept of [Time &Space] without a bare imagination in the human brain, which can not be verified as essential truth.

I received my education as such, and my career
was likewise.
I just feel that I'm existing on the Earth where
the Universal Gravitation solely controls all phenomena in human life on the earth, excluding anything else like a forth dimensional world in reality.

Of course you can enjoy any kind of fantasy in your brain as a past-time, but you can not live your daily life on such a fantasy.

This is just my own belief system to decide my
life style.
Other people may have their own belief system, of course, which is perfectly OK.


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Unknown (Eric Daniel Applebaum)
2017-02-14 12:58:54
To the person who uses here a letter for his name::

:-) (Smile)

I am curious....

You wrote: "In the process of manufacturing materials such as machinery, buildings and construction work, I will calculate
the progress made in the past, the completion schedule from the future, confirm the work that I have to do now It is such a
time that it exists strictly as its orderedness."

Did you ever work in the construction industry. It seems so from the translation, but maybe it is not an accurate one from Japanese to English.

If yes, that is very interesting. There is a perspective which can be related to the subject of this blog and your commentary above.
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Unknown (Son of Herbert A. Applebaum)
2017-02-14 12:47:42
"Work is the spine of human history."
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 (Unknown)
2017-02-14 05:28:44
統一の美
簡潔さの美
動きの美
その3要素は美の真髄でしょうね。
バレエでは
規律の美
調和の美
動きの美
になるでしょうか。
工学も坐禅もバレエも
形や形態は違っても
根本は全部同じ戒律からなっていると思います。
機械やネジに美しさを発見できるTは
物理的なセンスが優れているでしょうね。
私は簡潔の美が一番好きです。
コンマもペリオドもない簡潔さが
Tに伝わって何より嬉しく感じています。
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Unknown (T)
2017-02-14 00:32:18
化学式・数式とその運用法の中に、
統一の美、簡潔さの美、動きの美を見出すレンさんが、
その美と坐禅の美とをつなげて見るのは、
至極尤もな事なのでしょう。

工学系・職人系の私は同じ美をネジや歯車とその動き方・在り方に感じるモノです。

美の感じ方から人それぞれの人格が構成されて来るとも思えます。

工学系の私は機械や建築物や建設工事などの物作りの工程に於いて、
過去になされた進捗状況、将来を見通しての完成予定から計算して、
今しなければいけない仕事を確認するという如くの、
その整然として厳然と存在している時間・「時の流れ」の中にこそ美を感じ、「生きている実感」を感じるものですが、

線香の煙系の仏教者、坐禅実行者のレンさんは、
線香の煙の立ちのぼる姿と、ゼロ点である火玉と、積みあがって行く灰と、まだ燃えてない線香の部分から、
過去・現在・未来のすべて、時間を超越した宇宙を、
すべて統合して今の一瞬の中にみる、
そしてそれは坐禅そのものだと会得する、そう言うモノのなかに「生きている実感」を感じたりする・・・

という事にもなるのでしょうか・・・
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輝いている! (馬とモンゴル)
2017-02-13 15:06:35
hasunohanaさん

こんにちは!

貴女の輝いた生き方と前向きな人生観に感動しています

何時までもその生き方を続けてください

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Image (Unknown)
2017-02-12 16:02:31
Mr.big fan.
Universal solvent concept is interesting to think.
Water has the almighty on the earth...how I couldn't see the solvental capacity on water...as you mentioned water has the almighty to disolve but people can't see the way you realized.

My image of water is,
Cleaness.
If I were a painter and try to paint Clean image then I would paint water.
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グーグル通訳 (筆者)
2017-02-12 15:49:04
以下は英文のコメをグーグルが通訳したのでそのままの形でコピーして貼り付けます。

『水とZazenの間にこの相関関係を作るのは興味深いことです。

私は多くの人が私のように興味深いテーマを見つけ、この貴重な記事にコメントしてくれることを願っています。

このブログは特別であり、多くの参加者との活発な議論を楽しんでいただければ幸いです。

水にはいくつかのユニークな特性があります。「ユニバーサル溶媒」と呼ばれています。

溶媒は、その中に他の物質を溶解することができる。そして、水は他のどの液体よりも多くの物質を溶解するので、「万能溶媒」と呼ばれます。地球上の生命は、水が他の物質を分解(切断)する能力のために可能になります。

水分子は実際には酸素と水素原子の極性配列を持っています。一方の側(水素)は正の電荷を持ち、もう一方の側(酸素)は負の電荷を持っています。

これにより、他の物質を溶解させることができる。

だから私はこの質問をし、他の読者にコメントを募集する:

水を考えるとき、どのようなイメージがあなたの心に入ってくるのですか?』
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Unknown (One Of Your Big Fans)
2017-02-12 14:14:58
It is interesting that you make this correlation between water and Zazen.

I hope many others will find the subject as interesting as I do, and that they will comment on this valuable post.

This blog is special and I hope it will enjoy a lively discussion with many participants.

Water has some unique characteristics: It is known as "The Universal Solvent".

A solvent is capable of dissolving other substances within it. And, water is called the "universal solvent" because it dissolves more substances than any other liquid. Life on Earth is made possible because of the capacity of water to break down (cut down) other substances.

The Solvent capacity of water is possible because of the polarity you described: Water molecules indeed have a polar arrangement of the oxygen and hydrogen atoms—one side (hydrogen) has a positive electrical charge and the other side (oxygen) had a negative charge.

This allows it to dissolve other substances.

So I ask this question and invite other readers to comment:

When you think of water, what images come into your mind?
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