させる：cause；動作の主体は？

Translate: 制御部は、実行したメンテナンスの履歴を履歴情報として記憶部に記憶させる。

ChatGPT:

The control unit stores the history of the performed maintenance in the memory as historical information.

あなた:

How about the following: 1. The control unit causes the history of the performed maintenance to be stored in the memory as historical information. 2. The control unit causes the memory to store the history of the performed maintenance as historical information.

ChatGPT:

Both sentences are accurate translations of the original Japanese sentence, with slightly different phrasing. Here's a breakdown of the differences:

1. The control unit causes the history of the performed maintenance to be stored in the memory as historical information.

   • This version emphasizes that the control unit is responsible for ensuring the storage of the maintenance history. The phrase "causes ... to be stored" suggests that the control unit initiates or triggers the storage action.

2. The control unit causes the memory to store the history of the performed maintenance as historical information.

   • This version emphasizes the memory itself as the actor storing the information. It shifts focus slightly to the memory's role, suggesting that the control unit directs the memory to perform the storage.

Both are correct and capture the meaning of the original sentence, though the second one puts a bit more focus on the memory as the entity doing the storing. The first is more neutral, describing the action overall.

したら、したなら、した後：once, when, after

Translate: メンテナンスを実行したら、制御装置は結果情報を記憶部に記憶させる。

ChatGPT:

Once maintenance is performed, the control unit stores the result information in the memory.

あなた:

How about the following? 1. When maintenance is performed, the control unit stores the result information in the memory. 2. When maintenance has been performed, the control unit stores the result information in the memory. 3. After maintenance is performed, the control unit stores the result information in the memory. 4. Once maintenance is performed, the control unit stores the result information in the memory.

ChatGPT:

All four sentences are grammatically correct and convey a similar meaning, but there are subtle differences in emphasis. Here's a breakdown:

1. When maintenance is performed, the control unit stores the result information in the memory.

   • This sentence indicates that whenever maintenance occurs, the control unit performs the action. It’s more general and implies that this is a regular or recurring process.

2. When maintenance has been performed, the control unit stores the result information in the memory.

   • This version emphasizes that the maintenance must be fully completed before the control unit stores the information. It focuses on the completion of the maintenance.

3. After maintenance is performed, the control unit stores the result information in the memory.

   • This sentence focuses on the sequence of actions, indicating that once maintenance is done, the next step is storing the information.

4. Once maintenance is performed, the control unit stores the result information in the memory.

   • This one is similar to #3 but slightly more emphatic, implying that the action of storing the information happens immediately after the maintenance is performed.

In terms of your original Japanese sentence, "Once maintenance is performed" (#4) or "After maintenance is performed" (#3) would be the most natural translations.

Me: How about "After maintenance has been performed, the control unit stores the result information in the memory"?

ChatGPT:

"After maintenance has been performed, the control unit stores the result information in the memory" is also a grammatically correct sentence. It emphasizes that the maintenance must be fully completed before the control unit stores the result information. This version is similar to sentence #2 in your previous examples, but it uses "after" instead of "when," adding a clear indication of sequence.

In terms of nuance:

• "After maintenance has been performed" ensures that the maintenance is fully completed before the control unit takes action.

It accurately reflects the meaning of the original Japanese sentence, focusing on the completion of maintenance before storing the result. This makes it a good alternative translation.

場合：when, if, in a case where, in a case in which, etc.

Translate the following: メンテナンスを自分で実行しなければならない場合、ユーザには時間的金銭的負担がかかる。

ChatGPT:

"If the user has to perform the maintenance themselves, it will impose both time and financial burdens on them."

あなた:

What do you think about the following? 1. In a case where the user has to perform the maintenance themselves, it will impose both time and financial burdens on them. 2. In a case in which the user has to perform the maintenance themselves, it will impose both time and financial burdens on them. 3. In the case where the user has to perform the maintenance themselves, it will impose both time and financial burdens on them. 4. When the user has to perform the maintenance themselves, it will impose both time and financial burdens on them.

ChatGPT:

Here’s a breakdown of the differences between these sentences:

1. "In a case where..."
   This phrasing is grammatically correct but sounds a bit formal and specific. It suggests that there is a particular scenario in which the user may need to perform maintenance.

2. "In a case in which..."
   This version is even more formal than the first. "In which" makes it more precise, but it can sound slightly redundant and overly technical for casual or general use.

3. "In the case where..."
   Using "the case" instead of "a case" implies that the speaker is talking about a more definite or known scenario. This is a slightly smoother alternative to the first version.

4. "When..."
   The fourth version is the most concise and natural. It removes unnecessary complexity and gets straight to the point. It’s the most efficient and fluid, particularly in everyday or professional conversation.

Overall, sentence 4 is the most natural and clear, while sentences 1 and 3 are suitable for more formal or technical contexts.

あなた:

Translate: メンテナンスを自分で実行しなければならない場合、ユーザには時間的金銭的負担がかかる。この場合、ユーザはメンテナンスを避けることが多い。

ChatGPT:

"If the user has to perform the maintenance themselves, it will impose both time and financial burdens on them. In this case, users often tend to avoid the maintenance."

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時の、際の：副詞句の修飾先

Translate the following: 印刷制御部は、印刷処理を実行する際の設定値を記憶部に保存する。

ChatGPT:

"The print control unit stores the setting values in the memory unit when executing the printing process."

あなた:

Does the translation clearly and unambiguously convey the meaning of 印刷処理を実行する際の設定値?

ChatGPT:

Yes, the translation "the setting values when executing the printing process" accurately conveys the meaning of "印刷処理を実行する際の設定値" in a clear and unambiguous way.

• "印刷処理" is translated as "the printing process."
• "を実行する際" is translated as "when executing," which reflects the timing or condition under which the action is performed.
• "設定値" is translated as "setting values," which refers to the values or parameters set for the process.

This phrasing effectively captures the original meaning and context.

あなた:

It is possible to interpret the translation as meaning that the act of storing the values occur when the printing process is executed, isn't it? In other words, the translation is a bit ambiguous as to whether the "when" indicates the timing of storing the values or the timing of execution of the printing process, isn't it?

ChatGPT:

You're absolutely right. The translation could indeed be interpreted ambiguously, with the "when" potentially implying that the setting values are stored when the printing process is executed, rather than referring to the setting values for the execution of the printing process itself.

To remove this ambiguity, a clearer translation would be:

"The print control unit stores the setting values for executing the printing process in the memory unit."

This makes it explicit that the "setting values" are related to the execution of the printing process, rather than the timing of storing the values.

あなた:

How about, "The print control unit stores the setting values for when executing the printing process in the memory unit."

ChatGPT:

Your suggestion, "The print control unit stores the setting values for when executing the printing process in the memory unit," is closer to the original meaning, but it still carries a slight ambiguity due to the phrase "for when," which could be interpreted in multiple ways.

A more precise version could be:

"The print control unit stores the setting values used for executing the printing process in the memory unit."

This phrasing makes it clear that the setting values are intended for the execution of the printing process, eliminating any ambiguity regarding the timing of the storage action.

あなた:

Is the phrase "for when" natural English? Give me proper example sentences in which "for when" is used.

ChatGPT:

Yes, the phrase "for when" can be natural in English, but it is typically used in contexts where you're preparing something in advance for a specific moment or condition in the future. Here are some examples where "for when" is used naturally:

1. "I saved some money for when I go on vacation."

   • (Preparing money for a future event, i.e., the vacation.)

2. "She packed extra snacks for when the kids get hungry."

   • (Preparing snacks for a specific future situation, i.e., the kids getting hungry.)

3. "We’re keeping the candles for when the power goes out."

   • (The candles are being kept ready for a future event, i.e., a power outage.)

In these examples, "for when" introduces a future condition or situation that you're preparing for in advance. In your original sentence, however, it might sound a bit awkward because you're referring to the settings related to the printing process, not necessarily preparing for a future event. So while "for when" is natural in some cases, it doesn't work as well in technical or procedural contexts like the one you're working with.

あなた:

But the word 際の in the phrase 印刷処理を実行する際の indicates a future event, doesn't it? The word 際の seems to indicate a certain timing, which is obviously in the future in the case of the initial Japanese sentence, rather than a purpose or a use, which seems to more closely align with the word ための. So, the translation "for when executing the printing process" is more closely aligned with the 印刷処理を実行する際の than "for executing the printing process", isn't it?

ChatGPT:

You're absolutely correct in pointing out that "際の" in the original Japanese phrase "印刷処理を実行する際の" indicates a certain timing, which in this case refers to the time when the printing process will be executed (a future event). The distinction between "際の" (referring to timing) and "ための" (indicating purpose or use) is an important one.

Given this, "for when executing the printing process" is indeed more closely aligned with the meaning of "印刷処理を実行する際の" because it reflects the timing-related nuance, which suggests preparation for a future event.

So, a translation like:

• "The print control unit stores the setting values for when executing the printing process in the memory unit."

does indeed capture the timing aspect more accurately than just "for executing the printing process." However, while this translation is more accurate, it might still sound slightly unnatural in English due to the structure of "for when" in this context.

A refined version that both captures the meaning and reads more smoothly in English could be:

• "The print control unit stores the setting values for use when executing the printing process in the memory unit."

This way, the phrase conveys both the future timing implied by "際の" and maintains clarity and natural flow in English.

 

＊いつも迷う副詞句の係りの明確化の問題。一般的にはChatGPTの示した当初の英語

"The print control unit stores the setting values in the memory unit when executing the printing process."

で良いのかも？

いや、今思いついた、Chat爺とのやり取りには無い、

"The print control unit stores, in the memory unit, the setting values when executing the printing process."の方が良さそうにも思える。

しかしどちらも文法的には解釈の余地があるので、特に特許翻訳では

"The print control unit stores the setting values for executing the printing process in the memory unit."

のようにしたほうが良いのかも。しかし"for"は目的「ための」を示すと感じられるので日本語の「際の」の意味が薄まっているような気もする。

最後の英訳例

"The print control unit stores the setting values for use when executing the printing process in the memory unit."

では原文に無い"use"が入っているのが気になる。

更に聞いてみた。

How about the following: 1. The print control unit stores the setting values associated with the execution of the printing process in the memory unit. 2. The print control unit stores the setting values related to the execution of the printing process in the memory unit. 3. The print control unit stores the setting values as regards the execution of the printing process in the memory unit.

ChatGPT:

All three of your suggested translations are grammatically correct, but they each differ slightly in tone and naturalness. Here's an analysis of each:

1. "The print control unit stores the setting values associated with the execution of the printing process in the memory unit."

   • This is clear and formal. "Associated with" is a common and natural way to express a connection, making this a solid option. It accurately reflects the relationship between the setting values and the execution of the process.

2. "The print control unit stores the setting values related to the execution of the printing process in the memory unit."

   • This is very similar to the first one but slightly simpler and more direct. "Related to" is also a common way to express a connection. This version might be preferable for general or slightly less formal contexts, as it reads a bit more smoothly.

3. "The print control unit stores the setting values as regards the execution of the printing process in the memory unit."

   • "As regards" is less common in modern English, especially in technical writing. It has a formal, almost legal tone, and might sound a bit outdated or stiff in this context. While grammatically correct, it may feel less natural compared to "associated with" or "related to."

Recommendation:

• Option 2 ("related to") is likely the best choice for clarity, simplicity, and naturalness.
• Option 1 ("associated with") is also a strong choice, especially in more formal or technical writing.
• Option 3 ("as regards") is less common and might feel awkward in contemporary English, so it's the least preferred option here.

＊しかしこれらも原文への忠実性という意味では不安がある。結局"for executing"でよいのかも。